Pine Point Meeting
- A survey of the Community is needed. (Staff noted that we are looking at doing an
insert into the Leader that is mailed to every household)
- Like the idea of a the Leader Survey – but the Character of
Scarborough is seasonal - You need to access the summer residents – they won’t
be able to attend Planapalooza. Could you use the tax assessor address files to
at least mail a survey to summer residents? Could be very efficient way to
ensure you reached property owners in beach neighborhoods.
- Pine Point has an email distribution list, but it is not as
robust as the Higgins Beach list.
What drew you to Scarborough?
- I was born here, I care about the area. Moved away in my 20’s but came back. Bought
an old house and renovated. I have deep
roots with Family and friends in the area
- I don’t want to see the access limited to the beach here at
Pine Point. Many of the old pathways are
disappearing. That is changing the
character of Pine Point.
- If you live here, on one of the little streets and have to
walk to park, that’s not living at the beach.
Having beach access at your door is important.
- The new wharf, increased fishermen, and we’ve become a magnet
- My Grandfather built our house in 1938. I lived at the old
orchard end. We were the only family that lived in the community year
round. Not a car would go by. I really like the off season because it’s
quiet. Every year it gets busier and busier.
- We want to preserve the small community feeling. On my street there are still houses that are
vacant in winter.
- I hope that marine access is discussed. It was part of the 2006 Comp Plan, but I feel
like we failed on marine access – we lost access at Bayley’s Lobster pound and
- Make sure that we retain access for residents
- Lets’ look at the 2006 comp plan and identify where we fell
short, where we exceeded and where we just met the goals.
- I came to Scarborough 10 years ago, I was looking for a more
rural community and Scarborough was an attractive community with great access
to Portland, access to beach access to a nice community.
- My first summer was in 1948 at 3 months old. Parents had a cottage in Pine Point. Summered here every year and have a great
affinity for area.
- Scarborough is unique in that there are some very
identifiable neighborhoods. Trying to
preserve some of what Scarborough has been is important. The access to other areas is good, but it can
cause some stress between residents and others.
- Sold our cottage because we could not afford the taxes. It
was very hard. There aren’t many year-round
residents here, so not much pressure on the schools.
- I get concerned that some family will get wiped out as they
come over the bridge. Traffic and
parking present a dangerous situation. My preference is to not have parking along
the road because of safety concerns.
- Town should look at ways to garner revenue from parking –
perhaps have resident stickers.
- Don’t let the area get over utilized Pine Point is mixture of businesses and
residents, I hope it will be preserved, but some of the businesses are
depending on town resources for their parking. That’s not equitable.
- There needs to be a careful balancing of what’s
- How do you get moorings?
Staff summary – Sounds like you want
to make sure use of public realm balances with the residents. It’s a balancing
act of seasonal and year-round residents.
What does this look like? Is there a role for the Town? Should the Town have a policy for the short-term
- I have a guest cottage that was grandfathered. We collect the
9% lodging tax. All the services – we
are paying for everything. Particularly for visitor impact. Yet we don’t get
anything back from the State. If our legislators bring that up, we should
- I have thought a lot about Bayley’s Campground. There are 750
sites that are full all summer long.
Town isn’t being paid anything for the visitors from the trolly. They are not on sewer. Odor problem at times. I think Town should take a hard look at
whether or not the camp grounds are paying for their impact.
- Town of OOB assesses the camp grounds in the off season. People
leave their trailers. They have decks and hot tubs etc. They are really permanent
sites. Are they paying the full freight?
If every site has 4 people, a family, there is a least 3,000 people there all
season long. Noise and smoke from the camp fires is a problem
- We were drawn to Scarborough as a happy medium between urban
and rural. Wonderful combination of everything.
Five minutes to airport etc. From
a transportation stand point it’s great.
I think for what we are paying for taxes, I feel like we have a full
service town and excellent school system.
In 20 years, I want to see more of a sense of community. Find something that unites us as a
community. Maybe it’s the marsh, maybe
it’s the community center. I’m hoping a
more united community. There are situations unique to Pine Point and Higgins,
but I’d like to see how we tie the great things about Scarborough together.
- There are issues that are specific to areas. Are there
visions that transcend Pine Point?
- Pine Point can be a fishing community, but how many of them
live in the community. Trying to create a greater sense of community is
important. The boroughs have been separate communities for a long time, but we
can find ways to connect.
- The trip on Route One has become a painful path. It took an hour and half to come down from
Portland. How do you address this?
- People certainly don’t move to Scarborough because of Route
1! You really have to think about where you are going and when you are going.
What can be done about Route One.
- The improvements in traffic lights in Dunstan was well
done. I come from the Boston area and
it’s a pleasure to drive around here.
- I think of things in the big picture. Big issues get addressed in small
places. I would like to see the town
unite around living and planning in a sustainable way. I’d like us to have
sustainability as our vision of the future.
- It’s hard to do sustainable transportation, but we can
encourage electric car use. We could
facilitate this by having charging stations available. It’s a perfect place for electric cars. Encourage solar development, we could work on
codes and ordinances that encourage solar development.
- I see development in West Scarborough with all the houses
faced to the road rather than looking for optimum solar access. Solar orientation could be tremendous amount
of savings. Our town could be preemptive
on developing regulations.
- I don’t’ want the Town of Scarborough to provide charging
station. I don’t want my tax money going
toward something a private company could be doing.
- Having ordinances that encourage solar and super insulation
- Would not want our town to buy all electric vehicles if it is
going to cost us money. Encourage the
- I would love to see a community center – meet, take classes,
promote community. I go to Cape
Elizabeth for swimming and OOB for adult ED.
- Scarborough offerings are not that
appealing. OOB and Saco work together on
their programs. The programs are pay for
themselves. Sense of community can come from building a community center.
- I would investigate solar and super insulation, but Scarborough
needs to be concerned about losing a cohort of property owners if the
regulations create a greater cost of housing.
(Staff)Back to balance – how do you
encourage a diverse community? Diversity of housing - concerns and mixed
feeling about different types of housing… What do folks think about the role of
MF in the community?
- Do we have a choice in terms of growth? I’m not concerned about the types of
housing. Families have changed. We don’t
have large families anymore. Southgate [Avesta Project] is a great development.
We are not quite big enough to support certain things. The “Y” decided not to come here because
there wasn’t going to be enough fundraising capacity. Maybe we have reached a
population level that would make them reconsider.
- I’m fine with the multifamily on Haigis. Scarborough – a lot of people were concerned,
timing is everything, and we missed the boat on some items that we hemmed and
Staff: So it sounds like you are
saying that density in certain areas of town works.
- I admit it – I’m in favor of growth in the right places. Not
at Pine Point.
- Speaking of housing – what is going to happen with
Scarborough Downs. It can be a
significant asset to the community.
- Not as a casino.
- Mixed use, prime piece of real estate. Access to turnpike – I
view as a real asset for future development.
Councilor: As that property becomes
available – should the town invest in it?
- That’s a tough concept.
Prefer private developer to do it and the town work with the developers.
- There are other companies that don’t want to pay the price of
Portland, so there should be some opportunities for Scarborough.
- Private sector should address the site.
- Retail is nonexistent.
People can work from home, the need for new development is not what it
used to be. Hopefully whoever goes into
Scarborough Downs, will be a good one and will attract others.
- I think that when you are thinking about these developments
we really have to think about the traffic.
Maybe there is a way to build a through road?
- We have an opportunity with the Public Safety building moving
out to have development that would slow the traffic down and get the through
traffic off the road.
- Allow people to get on the turnpike for free to get the
through traffic off Route One.
Staff asked if you were giving advice
to the consultants – How would you finish these statements: Make sure to… and Do no damage to…..
- I didn’t know what this was about but I am concerned about
Ave 2. It’s an icon it’s the last one.
It’s an icon at pine point – the last path. They are all gone.
- I hope someday that I never hear that all the rights of ways
become private ways and take the public access away. These are my concerns.
- Life has changed and life is evolving, but I don’t want to
see the public right of ways taken away.
- Just leave it as is – the Town does not need to make it
- Town responsibility for cleaning the beach. What’s the schedule – this is a
responsibility for the town that is ongoing.
- If OOB can keep it clean, so can Scarborough.
- Maintain our common public lands.
- Red algae – important to clean the beach. Beaches that are not combed and cleaned have
less erosion. Our beach has grown we are fortunate.
- Town has done a great job with the red algae.
- I want all the assets that the Town has to be available to as
many people as possible for free. We’ve got to preserve what we have.
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